Tawdry attempt to write a jQuery version of a web desktop.

[Animal]

http://dev.luterek.com/jsos

Oh dear... http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/shakehead.gif :))

It's just what I tell people when they say "ooh, but jQuery is so easy, you just put a dollar sign in and everything works"..

It's a fragmented world with no unifying vision. Just a whole load of clever people multiplying and reinventing wheels, coding up reams of CSS and coming up with a disconnected series of user-written widgets which happen to use use the library.

It just cannot compete with the managed lifecycle and the unified Component model of Ext.

Sorry. I can't really even say "nice try". Because it's not.

[jmcneese]

yeah, i saw that on ajaxian and thought "why bother when there is Ext?". i'm sure john would say something about licensing, but meh.

[harley.333]

Animal, I think your jealousy is so apparent and ridiculous. If the dollar sign syntax bothers you so much, just do a search-and-replace and paste in your beloved pound symbol. I think we all know the $-namespace has simply reinvented the global-namespace problem. But, it's so obvious a

[Animal]

Oh dear.

Please express yourself properly.

What are you meaning to say?

[harley.333]

My sarcasm often gets the better of me. Above is my sad attempt at a joke.

To be frank, I totally agree that JSOS is a vain attempt at reinventing the wheel. I also think the $-namespace and $ method is a very efficient technique for introducing confusion into JavaScript.

[Animal]

;)

It's a difficult medium for banter this web thing...

Yes! We should use the pound symbol to perform all operations! Bring back the empire! :))

[jay@moduscreate.com]

Heh, wait till osExt comes out ;)

[brookd]

I actually started with jQuery, before I had heard of or seen ExtJS. I thought jQuery was freakin fantastic. I bought the learning jQuery book and started building a big app. i was using the jQuery interface library when it was first released.

Then I came across Ext. I loved the look of it, but I had already written so much code in jQuery. So I tried to skin the JQuery UI Components in a similar Ext Style. It worked but the UI components never behaved as well as Ext. And never looked as good as Ext. So I decided to look closer at Ext.

Needless to say I ditched jQuery (while I still use it for some dom selection and manipulation (but plan to replace it with domQuery later..)), and fell in love with Ext. I wasted so much time going down the jQuery road.

Developing in Ext is a joy. Components work so well together, expose the right template methods, have all the events and methods you could need to get them to do what you want and the documentation is great.

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jQuery still has a place, if you have mostly HTML website and you want to fade in/out a picture or do a slideshow or something of that nature, then the filesize of jQuery makes it a good candidate for that kind of stuff.

[Animal]

Yes, it does seem very adept at the kind of "DHTML" tricks that were used in web 1.5 to "liven up" web sites.

[jay@moduscreate.com]

where did you get the link? is it touted as a full featured WebTop?

[evant]

It was on Ajaxian.

[mschwartz]

http://mykes.sportstwo.net/Desktop.php

Implemented in 3 days in jquery. I don't have the benefit of a person to skin it for me.

Probably has a bug in IE, so try it in FF.

It does iframes and editors properly.

EDIT: Oops, I spoke too soon. There is a resize bug I notice when shrinking an editor window too fast. Not too hard to fix if I cared to :)

[jay@moduscreate.com]

Nice implementation of firefox in firefox ;)

[Frank]

I don't use jQuery too much, but I think the code style of ext is much better than others