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Bucs
19 Feb 2010, 7:12 AM
Will there be an evaluation version of the latest release of the product? We were not allowed to gen code and experiment with using that code in our projects with the old evaluation copy. Be nice to do that before actually purchasing.

abe.elias
19 Feb 2010, 3:57 PM
We plan on offering a trial after we release the product.

The limited time, 50% off (http://www.extjs.com/products/designer/) promotion is following the tradition we started with version 1.x of Ext JS.

mask_hot
20 Feb 2010, 12:49 AM
We plan on offering a trial after we release the product.

The limited time, 50% off (http://www.extjs.com/products/designer/) promotion is following the tradition we started with version 1.x of Ext JS.

When will the promotion end?

devtig
20 Feb 2010, 10:33 AM
Just pre-order it now. It's a fair deal for a very convenient product. Especially the thing about prototyping and showing your clients an gui early. Good thing they dropped the annual fee idea.

The more people pre-order the more chance there is the product will be released sooner.

abe.elias
22 Feb 2010, 7:07 PM
We are looking at a final 1.0 in 30 days.

ajpfister
23 Feb 2010, 10:33 AM
Just pre-order it now. It's a fair deal for a very convenient product.

This is absurd. If I go to my boss, show him the information that is out on this and say "Just pre-order it", I would be laughed out of the room.

And using this as a follow up:

The more people pre-order the more chance there is the product will be released sooner.

Could possibly get them rolling on the floor. How can I justify spending $ on a product that will improve productivity if I have no proof that it actually will.

FWIW, I think the Designer looks great but I like I said earlier, I don't have much to present to those that write the checks.

abe.elias
23 Feb 2010, 12:44 PM
I completely understand your perspective.

The pre-order is heavily geared towards our community that do not require any formal approval processes.

We are working on a trial, but it won't be available until after the pre-order sale is over.

devtig
24 Feb 2010, 7:29 AM
I didn't have trouble convincing my boss. You got http://www.extjs.com/blog/2009/10/08/ext-js-designer-preview/ to help you out. Think about the prototyping you can do in hours instead of days (depening on your Ext JS skills).
When carefully explained, he or she's probably going to be keen spending the $$ now instead of twice as much in a month or so from now. (That is, when yóu are convinced you are going to buy it anyway)

schiffm
24 Feb 2010, 12:05 PM
The pre-order is heavily geared towards our community that do not require any formal approval processes.

Abe, I still consider myself part of the community, even if it's a small part. The paying community may not be the most influential in the direction of the tool, but I daresay it has its place.


I didn't have trouble convincing my boss. You got http://www.extjs.com/blog/2009/10/08/ext-js-designer-preview/ to help you out. Think about the prototyping you can do in hours instead of days (depening on your Ext JS skills).
When carefully explained, he or she's probably going to be keen spending the $$ now instead of twice as much in a month or so from now. (That is, when yóu are convinced you are going to buy it anyway)

This is the most helpful post on the subject! Thank you very much :D I sent my boss the link; I'm sure he'll download the preview and play with it. He'll probably order it for the whole team. Awesome!!

ajpfister
2 Mar 2010, 6:49 AM
You got http://www.extjs.com/blog/2009/10/08...igner-preview/ (http://www.extjs.com/forum/../blog/2009/10/08/ext-js-designer-preview/) to help you out

I didn't realize there was a preview to download. My bad.

mjhaston
2 Mar 2010, 6:53 PM
How much of the code does it actually generate? Is it functioning code that I could provide JSON data to?

abe.elias
4 Mar 2010, 2:46 AM
It will generate the UI and Stores.

The implementation and "wiring up" is still in your hands.

Bucs
4 Mar 2010, 5:22 AM
I recently bought the pre-release, looking forward to working with it. I have two questions:

1 - I have a Mac laptop on which I have a Virtual Machine and develop my web apps on the Windows side of the VM in .Net. I see that you are offering both Mac and Windows versions of the designer. Is there any reason to have the designer on the same platform as the DB (which is SQL Server on the Windows side)? Does it pull live data in the design environment? I would like to install and use on the Mac side if possible and cut and paste code into the Windows Visual Studio environment...but not sure that is the optimal setup. Any comments on this?

2 - Does the designer work with the Core engine at all? Part of the reason for this question is that I'm not too familiar with Core but I'm getting ready to start a new project that will be using a web designer's layout, not the viewport, and so I'll have to interject tabs and grids as needed throughout the app. Will the ExtJS Designer work for me in this scenario?

Thanks...

reference
5 Mar 2010, 9:31 AM
Sounds great. Any updates on the time-frame?

abe.elias
5 Mar 2010, 3:15 PM
I recently bought the pre-release, looking forward to working with it. I have two questions:

1 - I have a Mac laptop on which I have a Virtual Machine and develop my web apps on the Windows side of the VM in .Net. I see that you are offering both Mac and Windows versions of the designer. Is there any reason to have the designer on the same platform as the DB (which is SQL Server on the Windows side)? Does it pull live data in the design environment? I would like to install and use on the Mac side if possible and cut and paste code into the Windows Visual Studio environment...but not sure that is the optimal setup. Any comments on this?


Under your Project Settings you will have a "URL prefix" to abstract the location of your server from the path. This will enable you to use the designer to retrieve data on one VM while using the designer in another OS.

For example:

The VM with DB and Webserver (192.168.1.111) - No Designer Installed and no changes required.

The OS with Designer installed would just point the URL prefix to http://192.168.1.111/





2 - Does the designer work with the Core engine at all? Part of the reason for this question is that I'm not too familiar with Core but I'm getting ready to start a new project that will be using a web designer's layout, not the viewport, and so I'll have to interject tabs and grids as needed throughout the app. Will the ExtJS Designer work for me in this scenario?

Thanks...

Ext Core is more of an OO version of a base lib like jQuery, there's no UI so you would need to write a component on top of Ext JS for it to render correctly in the designer.