9 Nov 2010 10:57 PM #11
All entries with apps present got an email from me telling them that they were either a finalist or not. As I say below to Andrea, there were a number of apps where the URL provided didn't respond or brought us to a placeholder page, so they were immediately disqualified. If you can email me at michael AT sencha, I can look up your entry explicitly.
10 Nov 2010 1:10 AM #12
I'm really disappointed about this situation but even really sorry becuase I think Sencha is a great company and I didn't expected to involve in a situation like this.
But at this point this is very funny: "Are you telling me that maybe you or someone else wrong typed my application url and for this I'm been disqualify?". Please tell me that this was not what you meant!
When I subscribe to the contest I wrote in clear letters to read the twelve page documentation before visit my app.
Did you read at least a word about it?
If was me that open a contest like this, and someone send me twelve pages of documentation, I would think 100 times before disqualify him, or, at least, I would send him an e-mail asking for possibile troubles if I wasn't able to see the application.
This is was I expect from professional people. Don't you agree???
As I wrote in the documentation and in the e-mail I send you (replied 7 days after), I even rent a dedicated server to makes my project idea real, and it has been always online!
I can see a lot of people saw it all around the world thanks to my Google Analytics account.
I even got a lot of e-mails from people who wants information about the project and express interests about it.
Look, with this I absolutely don't wanna say that my application is the top, but I'm just saying that I expected jat least a feedback about it from Sencha for the work done. I invest money and time in this contest and I has been disqualify silently without anyone say to me a word.
That's not a professional way to work.
However I still think Sencha is a great framework and a great company and I'm really sorry about this situation!
I expected another kind of feedback from Sencha but...no problem, I have other people interested in the project.
Now that as you say,you was able to see my application and see how much work has been done, I think you can uderstand my disappoint.
Sorry if I am too explicit writing this post, but I'm very disappointed.
10 Nov 2010 7:29 AM #13
Andrea. I hear and understand your frustration. If this was our mistake, I sincerely apologize.
10 Nov 2010 8:32 AM #14
Michael I accept the apology even if this don't pay me for all the hours spent to develope night and day, but there's still one thing to understand. When i subscribe to the contest I read in the official contest rules the following sentence: "On registration, Entrants will receive a free Sencha Touch commercial license for any applications submitted as part of this contest".
Now, if this was your fault I expect to get at least the commercial license as the official contest rules I subscribe sending you my prototype say.
11 Nov 2010 11:55 AM #15
11 Nov 2010 6:31 PM #16
That seems like a very reasonable request andrea. I'll follow-up in email.
12 Nov 2010 12:43 AM #17
17 Nov 2010 3:30 AM #18
I would like to express my personal opinion about Sencha Contest, and I really like to know what do you think about it.
Let's start to say that I appreciate all the works posted to the contest because I can understand there's a lot of work behind them and even if, from my point of view, some applications I saw in the top ten are absolutely not a "must have application", I want to post the congratulations to everyone joined the contest.
Now I wanna say something about the contest:
Let's talk about the contest application winner: "DailyCrossword". I really like this application and is well developed but, c'mon, does it really works 10000$? I still remember when I start high school and we start to develope the first softwares in Visual Basic. The crossoword application was one of the first application we develope to make us understand how matrix and array works. So from my point of view this is not a winner application. I saw something better on the top ten!
Now, if you read this post, I think you already know what happen to my contest sumbission, and...I don't wanna spent more words about it!
Sencha neither offer me to rejoin the contest although it was them fault. I asked for a free commercial license of Sencha Touch framework (repeat, I ASK) as the official contest rules said, at this point Sencha activated me a free coupon to buy the product but it doesn't work and I'm still waiting for an answer about it.
After some days I know that Sencha Touch is now released for free to everyone, even for the one who doesn't joined the contest, so....are you kidding me?
I really have no more words to spend about it, I think, and I hope to reflect the opinion about others developers that joined the contest that has been a bit cheated from this "contest".
Just last thing:
The official contest rules said that the appications would be valutated by:
- Quality / Functionality: the final application or service must be fully functional and run
successfully on a mobile device supported by Sencha Touch. First round entries must provide a
substantially complete user interface but may lack complete functionality such as live data.
- HTML5 Technology Usage: the application demonstrates innovative use of HTML5 technologies
(canvas, video, CSS3 etc.) to create interesting and useful user experiences
- Innovation: something we haven't seen before, or haven't seen before in a web application
- User Experience: provides excellent user interface and interaction design
Now you have to ask yourself: Does it really "DailyCrossword" is the top we can develope with Sencha? Does this application respect all the requires written into the official contest rules?
I wait for your feedback!
17 Nov 2010 7:42 AM #19
First of all, I would like to say I am really sorry for your contest submission. I can understand you and you are really right to be pissed, but this is not related with DailyCrossword. If you see only array and matrix operations on this app, I think you should review your programming skills. I just wanna ask you, Do you know that who judged these apps?
As a short info ( and you can find details here: http://notes.sencha.com/post/1408538...test-final-day )
Joe Hewitt, the amazing software engineer behind iUI, Firebug, and Facebook for iPhone.
Brian LeRoux, software developer at Nitobi and behind some fantastic projects like PhoneGap, XUI, and LawnChair.
Josh Clark, speaker and author of Tapworthy, a widely acclaimed book on iPhone application design.
David Kaneda, designer and developer, creator of jQTouch, and currently the creative director at Sencha.
and i wanna ask you one more question do you really think that http://code.google.com/android/adc/adc_gallery these apps worth 275.000$ . This is just marketing and advertisement.
17 Nov 2010 7:51 AM #20
Do you really read my post? Maybe you don't correct understand what i tried to say or maybe I don't express myselft correctly.
I said that i really like the "DailyCrossword" application, but I don't see innovation if teachers made us develop the same application around 10 years ago. And that was the same: "load the puzzle schemes from ini files". I'm not saing that that application is stupid or bad developed or something else, I'm saying that at the top ten, there are application that offers something new than a crosswords application. This is my personal point of view, I respect your so I don't undestand why you don't have to respect mine. If I prefer to use an iPad for a delivery service instead a crosswords application, what is wrong with that?
I said I respect the work behind every application because I know the hard work behind each one, as every developer knows, but let me free to express my opinion that for me there are applications that worths more on the top ten for innovation and Html5 standards (the requires for the contest).
And don't worry about my programming skills, I have clients all around Europe
PS: I notice you have not read my previous post: They have not seen my application at all cuz they mistyped my application url address. I screen recorded my contest entry and I have server logs that show my application was always online. But I don't want talk anymore about this. Sencha team already apologize.
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