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    Default Seems to be a lot of Qooxdoo and Dojo trolls on the forums lately?

    Seems to be a lot of Qooxdoo and Dojo trolls on the forums lately?


    Seems the champions Qooxdoo and Dojo communities are fishing for customers on this forum and trolling every post...

    Might need to start banning people pushing other frameworks on this forum... it's just poor practice.
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    Or could be a bunch of angry Sencha developers with a single user licences looking for alternatives given Sencha management won't publicly respond to the complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawesi View Post
    Seems the champions Qooxdoo and Dojo communities are fishing for customers on this forum and trolling every post...

    Might need to start banning people pushing other frameworks on this forum... it's just poor practice.
    I am such a 'troll' ;-) LOL. But I have been a dedicated ExtJs user for years. But feel free to ban me.

    P.s. You could also look up the definition of trolling. Then ask yourself, who is the troll.

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    Hi guys, here is troll 2 ;-) If you check my first post in the long tread, you will see that I wrote about my EXtJs experiences, that I (still) consider it a great tool, but that the amount of bugs in EXT5 did make me very sceptical. And that the current development of Sencha's marketing did give me a feeling like "I had that two times with borland - never again". I never insulted anyone or sencha or ext. To write that and why I switched to dojo was only a consequence of many people asking "where to go?". I still wished I could stay with Sencha - and that's not a question of money. I am worried about the long-term proespects of extjs.....

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    Default I like seeing the alternative suggestions

    I like seeing the alternative suggestions


    I enjoy seeing other people's alternative advice. I always visit those websites. In the end, though, I always keep going back to Sencha. None of those other suggestions has compared to EXTJS in terms of depth and architecture in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougbieber View Post
    I enjoy seeing other people's alternative advice. I always visit those websites. In the end, though, I always keep going back to Sencha. None of those other suggestions has compared to EXTJS in terms of depth and architecture in my opinion.
    I did a fair amount of programming using Dojo. It's a decent framework or toolkit as they prefer to call it... and it's free.

    ... but IMO excluding the price aspect, Ext JS is better in just about every category.

    This includes the overall product architecture, scalability of individual components (especially the tree component), look and feel of components, richness of the framework (i.e. the number of available components), programability, examples, documentation and support.

    If this is not enough, the gap between Ext JS and Dojo is growing. The Dojo team is at least a year behind schedule w/ the Dojo 2 release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesJ View Post
    ... but IMO excluding the price aspect, Ext JS is better in just about every category.
    I would have to agree, but when license renewal time comes around, I need to have somewhere to go. Dojo doesn't seem like the walk in the park I was hoping it would be after my initial investigations (so I could hardly be described as a Dojo troll), but I fully intend to tinker with it as time permits so that my familiarity with it is up to scratch when my license runs out. It may lack a mature grid and tree but the rest of it certainly checks out (though its documentation could do with some more meat on the bones, too).

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    We're not gong to start banning people or deleting posts where people are recommending competing frameworks. That's just a bad idea to censor people like that. People are allowed to express their opinion freely, even if we don't agree with it (and it adheres to the terms of use of the forum)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesJ View Post
    I did a fair amount of programming using Dojo. It's a decent framework or toolkit as they prefer to call it... and it's free.

    ... but IMO excluding the price aspect, Ext JS is better in just about every category.

    This includes the overall product architecture, scalability of individual components (especially the tree component), look and feel of components, richness of the framework (i.e. the number of available components), programability, examples, documentation and support.

    If this is not enough, the gap between Ext JS and Dojo is growing. The Dojo team is at least a year behind schedule w/ the Dojo 2 release.
    Some more trolling, sorry.

    Then you really should have a look at qooxdoo. Qooxdoo is way smaller than ExtJs (so, don't feel threatened all you Ext zealots), particularly when it comes to the user base. But I find it a very interesting framework. For my use case (open source, should be very reliable and fast, easy to test), it seems a good match. And it really deserves a bit more attention.

    Again, calling qooxdoo a good framework doesn't mean that I find ExtJs a bad framework, only you need to pick the right tool for the right job.

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    >>> Then you really should have a look at qooxdoo.

    What trolling??

    My comment was about dojo vs Ext JS, not qooxdoo. I worked with both and am a Dojo contributor with a signed CLA. Ext JS is a better product, and I stand by my comment.

    That said... if there was a better framework than Ext JS, I'd have no problem recommending it to my customers.