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    I would agree with that. Even if Sencha decided to remove the 5pk minimum (and not that one program they tried), not sure if Sencha could have still survived. How many times did Sencha do something to alienate themselves from their current customer and user base? The trust was gone. Plus, everyone is talking about other things like React and Vue among others. I haven’t seen anything that comes close to Ext JS but there are things that can get you far and they are improving. You know, I don’t remember having any warning about 5pk, I remember finding out about it when they announced it to everyone. As a developer, I disagreed with it and was vocal internally but I was blinded by the work I was doing to I chalked it up to being above my pay grade. Looking back at it, I wish I wouldn’t have done that but the again I was able to do a lot of different things and therefore learned more so I still got something out of it... but I knew Sencha days were definitely numbered. But such is life, nothing is perfect. I do feel extremely bad for people that spent a lot of time and money only for things to be like they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmesser View Post
    IMHO, the best outcome would be for ExtJS to be completely open source somehow.
    It won't happen. Atanas Popov, IDERA GM, is already on record stating that he is not a believer in the open source model.

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    the best alternative for extjs is DevExtreme from devexpresshttps://js.devexpress.com/ they have free edition for non commercial and reasonable price for Complete edition https://js.devexpress.com/Buy/. and work in progress for React Supporting https://devexpress.github.io/devextr...ve/react/grid/.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmed altayib View Post
    the best alternative for extjs is DevExtreme from devexpresshttps://js.devexpress.com/ they have free edition for non commercial and reasonable price for Complete edition https://js.devexpress.com/Buy/. and work in progress for React Supporting https://devexpress.github.io/devextr...ve/react/grid/.
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    It depends what you mean by "best alternative".

    Does it work with React or Vue? Kendo UI has bindings for both React and Vue, but it's not as rich as Ext JS.

    Anyway, it's not over for Ext JS until it's over. Sencha has been in a free fall (with a strong downward momentum) before the IDERA acquisition, but there's still a small chance this could work out.

    Even @mitchellsimoens' boss this thinks (or at least thought 2 months ago) something good could come out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmed altayib View Post
    the best alternative for extjs is DevExtreme from devexpresshttps://js.devexpress.com/ they have free edition for non commercial and reasonable price for Complete edition https://js.devexpress.com/Buy/. and work in progress for React Supporting https://devexpress.github.io/devextr...ve/react/grid/.
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    Hilarious.

    It's pitiful.

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    I have developed quite a few web products for my company all using ExtJs since version 3 and still doing it now with ExtJs 6.5. Sencha ExtJs is great and very quick to mock up web applications, especially using Sencha Architect. Also I am used to the old traditional OO widget style development, rather than the modern DOM driven frameworks.

    When Sencha announced 5 dev license pack, I sort of knew it is a kind of death march in this climate of economy and open source movement in Javascript frameworks. IMHO, that decision seems to me a bit arrogant yet the management have lost touch to the ExtJs users base. One of the many reasons, I stuck to ExtJs is because Sencha shields me from all the insane progress in Javascripts development and CSS. Meanwhile I can 100% focus on understanding & advancing my company very complex business logic and bringing that via sophisticated web frontend. However, it seems time is up, I have to move on to learning new framework.

    I personally believe that if ExtJs wants to move forward & survive, the only way is to turn their widget classes into web-components. As for myself, I have started learning Polymer and will keep on maintaining company products in ExtJs until the very end.

    Sencha, you have been good and helping my company bringing out web products that are well received. I am sorry the journey ends in this way.

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    I want to move but there are no other framework as good and solid as extjs when building web desktop application.

    I will wait and see how IDERA going to do. will IDERA change pricing to make it flexible and affordable ? , will IDERA still continue extjs community version ? will IDERA able to show more new functions in next release of extjs ? or worse will extjs disappear and become part of delphi ?

    I hope IDERA don't wait too long or it will be too late (since everybody run away).

    currently I play around exploring wakanda and wavemaker .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobolds View Post
    currently I play around exploring wakanda and wavemaker .
    I've never heard of WaveMaker but it looks interesting (as do a lot of things these days). But one thing I notice is that there's no pricing anywhere on the web site. If you have to ask how much something is, then you probably can't afford it ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc.fearby View Post
    I've never heard of WaveMaker but it looks interesting (as do a lot of things these days). But one thing I notice is that there's no pricing anywhere on the web site. If you have to ask how much something is, then you probably can't afford it ;-)
    There's some pricing info on the site. At least they don't require to purchase a bundle.

    https://www.wavemaker.com/get-started/

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    $249 per month per developer is even worse than Sencha's Premium 5-pack: 12 * $248 * 5 = $14,940. Not having to buy quantities of five is a good thing, but still, one developer license costs $2,976 per year.

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