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    Quote Originally Posted by firefoxSafari View Post
    Looks like it's officially GA now.

    https://www.sencha.com/blog/announci...nd-tooling-ga/

    Slightly disappointed / worried there's no Architect release or even mention of an upcoming one.
    Only slightly?

    All those new features announced for Modern were already written prior to the takeover. Idera simply held off on releasing them for over a year in order to be able to pretend to have done something.

    They were not all finished (Chips and multiselection Combobox was finished), and it's obvious on even a slight test run that those that were not finished are still not finished. This release is too buggy to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animal View Post
    Only slightly?

    All those new features announced for Modern were already written prior to the takeover. Idera simply held off on releasing them for over a year in order to be able to pretend to have done something.

    They were not all finished (Chips and multiselection Combobox was finished), and it's obvious on even a slight test run that those that were not finished are still not finished. This release is too buggy to use.
    There is no example for Chips in the Kitchensink - and no examples of usage in the API documentation. And combobox remains missing from Kitchensink.

    I raised a number of bugs with 6.6 and none have been fixed

    On top of that I have now been waiting since 15th January (24 days) for a support ticket to be dealt with concerning Themer being unusable - it seems that there is no one supporting Themer anymore.

    I created a thread about this on the forum - Mitchell Simoens responded saying that SLA is 15 days. Well, his comment got deleted. So he wrote again and then my whole thread got deleted.

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    https://examples.sencha.com/extjs/6....ern#form-email The "to" is a Combobox with multiSelect: true

    Also https://examples.sencha.com/extjs/6....#form-register the Skills field.

    True, there are no direct examples of a ChipView, but it's just a DataView, so should be easily picked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animal View Post
    https://examples.sencha.com/extjs/6....ern#form-email The "to" is a Combobox with multiSelect: true

    Also https://examples.sencha.com/extjs/6....#form-register the Skills field.

    True, there are no direct examples of a ChipView, but it's just a DataView, so should be easily picked up.
    Thanks for pointing those out.

    Shouldn't really need to go hunting within other examples to find an example of something though! In Classic there is a "form fields" section (https://examples.sencha.com/extjs/6....k/#form-fields). Curiously this has not been replicated in Modern and I can't think why that would be?!?

    If you're not overly familiar with aspects of Extjs then where there are similar controls is not all that helpful. Really the Kitchen sink is also supposed to be advertising what Extjs can do so it seems odd not to make this complete

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    Just wondering if anyone from Sencha is going to add to this thread?

    What is going on with the leadership at Sencha? Did they purchase Sencha just to collection the license fees from the existing client base with no plans to grow the company? I can't imagine anyone selecting Extjs for new development, even with the Angular and React components. I am extremely impressed with all it can do but I can also see that NOTHING of substance has been added since they essentially fired all the competent people responsible for the development of the product. Anything that was added is poorly documented and/or broken. Even Extjs's biggest cheerleaders are starting to jump ship.

    Sencha leadership? are you out there?

    The parent company where I work has an investment in Sencha with it software written using the tool. They asked me to look it over to see if we want to use it for anything. The salesman we talked to did not know of any of the products listed in the many "alternatives to Extjs" threads in this link. He genuinely had not spent any time on this forum. I raised a few concerns and he said he would look into them and never got back to me.

    I recently sent an email to my contact at Sencha asking a few questions regarding licensing and I never received a reply. Real simple stuff..... <crickets>.....

    I am not sure if they just don't care or are incompetent.

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    Is Sencha in the death throes and they've stretched 6.7 out and released it just to give the impression of being alive to get a few more licence and support renewals until they finally croak? At the Europe roadshows in December the team there (Danny, Marc, Nadege, Olga) were very excited about the Extjs future. Perhaps they were putting a brave face on it or perhaps they're not being told the reality of what's going on either?

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    Well ran companies don't have broken links on their website: https://examples.sencha.com/extjs/6.7.0/ This page, one of the larger selling points for getting someone interested in the Extjs tool, has many broken links.


    With that said.... I still can't find a tool that is as complete as Extjs. The amount of effort and skill that went into developing this product is difficult get get your arms around. It is huge and very well thought out. Unfortunately that company is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troy.aumiller View Post
    I still can't find a tool that is as complete as Extjs. The amount of effort and skill that went into developing this product is difficult get get your arms around. It is huge and very well thought out. Unfortunately that company is gone.
    I'm with you on that. The toolkit is very good thanks to guys such as Mitchell and Animal. I can't find an alternative either which does make you wonder why they couldn't make it work financially. And recently the emphasis has been on increasing the width (React / Angular compatibility) at the expense of the depth (achieving equivalence with Modern / Classic). I've had to embed jqwidgets in an iframe within my system to get a decent grid, would you believe.

    So if Sencha is dead, what do *we* do?

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    From what it seems, even if they have a QA team they either are negligent and cannot find simple issues/bugs or if they found them then management disregarded and shipped anyway. There is always a struggle between sales/marketing and engineering but prior to the acquisition, engineering had strong leadership to prevent sales/marketing from getting their way.

    Management knew of the issues, disregarded it and upper management didn't care of this mistake. In my eyes, Idera only wants to stretch the licensing money, they don't care to push the product forward.

    Ext JS is still great (well, not 6.7.0) and better than many things in many ways. However, the world is different, open source is killing it and there are many libs out there that are improving very rapidly. Rolling your own framework has its pros/cons just like sticking with a single vendor. I don't think there is an app I've personally built that I could not do today with something like React. The two things that Ext JS has over others: RTL and accessibility.
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    I can't believe they broke Viewports

    https://www.sencha.com/forum/showthr...-with-Viewport

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