Today, we’re happy to announce an all-new Sencha Complete. In addition to a commercial license of Ext JS 4, Sencha Touch, and an annual Standard or Premium Support subscription, Sencha Complete now includes a commercial license to “Sencha Touch Charts”:https://www.sencha.com/blog/sencha-touch-charts-now-available/ — our data visualization add-on to Sencha Touch — and the new Ext Designer 1.2 with support for Ext JS 4.
Purchasing Sencha Complete is a great way to get all of the desktop and mobile JavaScript frameworks and tools to help you develop amazing web applications. Plus, you’ll get the backing of our Sencha Support team and community forums with the included Standard or Premium Support subscription.
To celebrate the enhanced and expanded Sencha Complete, we’ve made the price even more attractive. Sencha Complete is now available at a special price of $845 for a 1-pack license (see our online store for 5-pack and 20-pack prices).
So go ahead and head over to the “Sencha Store”:https://www.sencha.com/store/ and find which bundle is right for you.
I have been in the industry selling intangible IP for a long time, and there is one thing that I realised early – you make more money selling your products for less than $100 as opposed to selling for more. For most people $100 is throwaway, disposable income, ie a night on the piss, more than that and people hesitate…
This is just MHO, but really who do you see selling apps for over $100? Ext Designer, especially has the potential to drive many users to ExtJS, but the excessive price tag will mean that many will not bother with it.
I second the comment….Money is very very tight….and I think long and hard about the cost of this. Once my project starts making money that is one thing, but for now….that price hurts….OUCH!!!
@Lubos : Liked. Rightly said.
For most businesses, $845 per seat is peanuts. Companies can save huge amounts of money using tools like these, as it allows their developers to concentrate less on reinventing the wheel with underlying frameworks and UI development, and more on adding usable features to their products. If a developer costs a company $400 a day, that developer saving just over 2 days development time recoups the cost of this bundle. In the eyes of most companies, that is extraordinary value, and they will be prepared to pay it in a heartbeat. Sencha products are not “apps”, they are frameworks, engines, enterprise development tools, and they are priced accordingly. Add support into the equation, and $845 seems like the deal of the century for enterprise customers.
@Joe Lennon .. signed! Sencha tools are awesome and the pricing is more than ok.
Seems to me the price is doable for people who see the value in Sencha’s products. Are you going to get a random person to plunk down a couple hundred on Designer? Doubt it. But the random person is also not the target audience. It’s the people who have learned the value of Sencha’s tools–for these, the savings in productivity, innovation, etc. make the money much easier to find and justify.
@Joe, In an ideal world, you might be right. But, with every new tool, there is a learning curve with the tool, on how it works and how it is different than other tools the developer had used in the past. IDE’s are good, but they also come with baggage.
The Sencha products are great. I even start to see the value of Designer. The offer is for new customers. I have already Sencha complete. I hardly see a good offer for existing cusomers at Sencha. A support renewal after 1 year is 495 usd. That is for small companies quite a lot. I think however that the value is very good if you are a serious professional. I miss however the offer for Touch charts for existing customers.
@Sencha – Any chance there is a grandfather clause for an include of Touch Charts on recent Sencha Complete purchases?
@wresin8 — yes, you do get grandfathered in. For some reason that was left out of the blog post, but existing Complete customers *do* grandfather in with a Touch Charts license.
I can’t believe people find this expensive. I guess folks don’t value their own time. I agree with @Joe Lennon… This is peanuts.
Someone is talking about the price. This is a Légale ensure that the demand is unsatisfied. We live in an age in which there is a lot of bright young minds. These workaholics make more project work and programming work than some high earners. Therefore I can only welcome if fabulous frameworks like Ext JS freely or at least for around $ 100 each to realize his creativity available. Of course, the framework behind an enormous amount of brainpower, which has already been done. But the proliferation of frameworks in the field of open source software brings an enormous amount of potential for Sencha.
For a company the price does not matter. I am a part-time independent web developer and would really really love to use some of the Sencha products for some projects of my customers, but for me and for a single project it is to expensive and my customers definitely won’t pay if there are others ways to get things working.
(It would be nice if there were more options to buy for non companies / small businesses)
Roll on jquery mobile :-)
Sweet spot anyone from a student to an executive. But while not everyone will be accessible to the hands of a minority.
To me the pricing seems in line with other professional level development tools.
It looks amazing!
Can’t wait to try the new chart lib.
executive
IMHO, the price is ridiculous, showing significant old school and small minded thinking in this modern age of open source. I for one am abandoning Sencha. It was nice while it lasted.
Clear, infoarmtive, simple. Could I send you some e-hugs?
@TheHippo (and anyone else concerned with the cost): I too, am a micro to small business web developer with a very tight budget. However, I think balking at the price of this framework is potentially small-minded. Two points to that, feel free to dissent:
1) Sencha’s product; Sencha’s price. I think a Lamborghini Murcielago is way overpriced. But, hey, they built it, they sell it. If it is too much then they’d be out of business. Same goes for the Lambo of js frameworks.
2) The value of ExtJS is that it is a framework. Too many developers do just that: develop. But, I challenge you to put together your own “product” using ExtJS and sell, and resell, that. You’ll quickly see an ROI if you build something people want. Which actually brings us back to point 1.
@Seth: The Sencha team is going to make the call on how to price their product. Nobody is arguing with that. The point people are making though is that while the price tag may be a good fit for bigger companies, it is a definite barrier when it comes to individual developers. Those individuals are usually the ones that spread the word and create or justify the interest within big companies.
The key question is: Is the Sencha team interested in selling to those individual developers and small companies? If the answer is no, then I guess the price should remain unchanged and smaller businesses and individual developers will go elsewhere.
It is that simple.
@Daniel: I appreciate your response and input. I think it is incorrect to say nobody is arguing with the Sencha team making the call on how to price their product. In fact, this whole thread is an argument (or debate/discussion) about just that. Sencha made the call and it seems some here don’t think they have that right or are “missing” something. I don’t believe they are.
To your point that the price is a “fit for bigger companies” and a “barrier when it comes to individual developers” is a broad, sweeping and very generalized statement. I know many individual developers, and small companies, who pull down more bottom line profit than many “big companies”. The mythos that big companies are made of money is a whole other discussion.
The key question, in my opinion, is not: “Is Sencha team interested in selling to … individual companies and small companies?” but rather is “Is Sencha’s price for their product a fair value for their product.” The answer to that question is going to vary. Yet, I think, to say the price point is a barrier is to assume that individual developers and small companies don’t know how to manage their money, are broke, or will not realize an ROI on their investment. And I don’t think that is the case.