Sencha Touch 2 Beta—Raising The Bar http://www.sencha.com/blog/sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar Two years ago, we set out on a journey to make the web mobile. Today, we’re raising the bar with the release of Sencha Touch 2 Beta. en-us ed@sencha.com Copyright 2012 2012-02-01T16:00:03+00:00 Comment by Anthony Hoang I was working on Sencha Touch 2pr3 and had a working app.  I replaced my sencha-touch-all.js file with the one from Sencha Touch 2 Beta3 and immediately had some errors and now my app is broken.  Is there a migration guide out there for developers who want to migrate from S.T.2pr3 to S.T.2b3? I was working on Sencha Touch 2pr3 and had a working app.  I replaced my sencha-touch-all.js file with the one from Sencha Touch 2 Beta3 and immediately had some errors and now my app is broken.  Is there a migration guide out there for developers who want to migrate from S.T.2pr3 to S.T.2b3?

]]> Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:58 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30740#date:09:58 Comment by Ed Spencer @Andrew the last several releases have had great stability. We’re tracking a handful of issues we’d like to correct before we claim GA but we’re pretty close @Andrew the last several releases have had great stability. We’re tracking a handful of issues we’d like to correct before we claim GA but we’re pretty close

]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:35 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30627#date:20:35 Comment by Andrew Thorp When can we expect Sencha Touch 2 to be out of beta? Thanks! When can we expect Sencha Touch 2 to be out of beta?

Thanks!

]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:57 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30626#date:19:57 Comment by Ed Spencer @AndyD yup, plus Chrome is on a great trajectory (more on that soon) @Steve Metro looks very interesting, we’re keeping a close eye on it @Todd yea the stuff between PR3 and PR4 was the biggest change, API has been very stable since then (that’s the nature of a preview release of course…) @AndyD yup, plus Chrome is on a great trajectory (more on that soon)

@Steve Metro looks very interesting, we’re keeping a close eye on it

@Todd yea the stuff between PR3 and PR4 was the biggest change, API has been very stable since then (that’s the nature of a preview release of course…)

]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:49 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30604#date:07:49 Comment by Todd Zmijewski If only it gracefully degraded w/o JavaScript … we can’t everything right. – great work so far. Hyped for the production release. Though beta is looking pretty good once I was able to get over the few humps going from pr3 – beta. That said even at the prototype stage people are already bugging me about Windows and Opera mobile browsers. Are there any future plans to provide compatibility with these browsers after general release? If only it gracefully degraded w/o JavaScript … we can’t everything right. – great work so far. Hyped for the production release. Though beta is looking pretty good once I was able to get over the few humps going from pr3 – beta. That said even at the prototype stage people are already bugging me about Windows and Opera mobile browsers. Are there any future plans to provide compatibility with these browsers after general release?

]]> Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:12 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30597#date:02:12 Comment by Simon Flack Looking great Sencha… Well done! Looking great Sencha… Well done!

]]> Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:12 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30580#date:18:12 Comment by Steve Sencha is comming along well on the iOS and Android front.  The question is Windows 8 Metro Apps which can be developed directy within the WinRT environment.  What is Sencha’s views on this? Sencha is comming along well on the iOS and Android front.  The question is Windows 8 Metro Apps which can be developed directy within the WinRT environment.  What is Sencha’s views on this?

]]> Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:55 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30566#date:15:55 Comment by AndyD @Ed The rapid picking up by the Android dev team of the reported issues sounds promising. I had already starred 24833 and have also starred 25147 @ http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25147 @Ed The rapid picking up by the Android dev team of the reported issues sounds promising. I had already starred 24833 and have also starred 25147 @ http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25147

]]> Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:58 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30558#date:11:58 Comment by Ed Spencer @Roger we’ll do that at some point, at the moment though no-one we know actually develops *on* a mobile device so it’s been a lower priority @bens best place to ask is in the Touch 2 forums (http://www.sencha.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?91-Sencha-Touch-2.x-Discussion) @Roger we’ll do that at some point, at the moment though no-one we know actually develops *on* a mobile device so it’s been a lower priority

@bens best place to ask is in the Touch 2 forums (http://www.sencha.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?91-Sencha-Touch-2.x-Discussion)

]]> Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:52 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30555#date:01:52 Comment by bens Can anyone tell me if there is any touch/event calendar code available using sencha touch 2.I tried the sencha touch 1 calendar.it is working.but when i tried to change the code to sencha touch 2 its showing errors.Pls do help.its urgent Can anyone tell me if there is any touch/event calendar code available using sencha touch 2.I tried the sencha touch 1 calendar.it is working.but when i tried to change the code to sencha touch 2 its showing errors.Pls do help.its urgent

]]> Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:56 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30550#date:06:56 Comment by Roger Hi looking forward to 2.0 RTM - the docs and guides don’t scroll on the iPad so can’t see all if them. Thx Hi looking forward to 2.0 RTM - the docs and guides don’t scroll on the iPad so can’t see all if them.
Thx

]]> Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:54 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30549#date:23:54 Comment by Ed Spencer @Arjen thanks for your support, we actually got some rapid progress on the issue from the Android team on this one - we’ll update you shortly on that @Don that’s a little outside my purview, don’t think it will be simultaneous with 2.0 GA but should be not long after it @Arjen thanks for your support, we actually got some rapid progress on the issue from the Android team on this one - we’ll update you shortly on that

@Don that’s a little outside my purview, don’t think it will be simultaneous with 2.0 GA but should be not long after it

]]> Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:24 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30548#date:20:24 Comment by Don Ruby @Ed : Is there a target date for Touch Charts to be compatible with ST2 ? @Ed : Is there a target date for Touch Charts to be compatible with ST2 ?

]]> Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:44 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30547#date:19:44 Comment by Arjen “If you’d like to help prioritize this bug, please go to the bug page for Android bug number 24833, and “star” the bug by clicking on the star icon just before the headline.” I have marked the star. I hope many people follow. Please tweet about it in suport of higher priority. “If you’d like to help prioritize this bug, please go to the bug page for Android bug number 24833, and “star” the bug by clicking on the star icon just before the headline.”

I have marked the star. I hope many people follow. Please tweet about it in suport of higher priority.

]]> Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:38 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30546#date:19:38 Comment by Mark Francis Absolutely blown away by this, it’s beta but already way superior to 1.x stable and jquerymobile is light years behind. Can’t believe you give this away for free, thank you! Absolutely blown away by this, it’s beta but already way superior to 1.x stable and jquerymobile is light years behind. Can’t believe you give this away for free, thank you!

]]> Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:37 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30535#date:18:37 Comment by Johan Ed Spencer: There we go! Got it! Ed Spencer: There we go! Got it!

]]> Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:47 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30532#date:15:47 Comment by Ed Spencer @Marco and @AndyD looks like there’s some good news on that front - Android 4.0.3 contains a patch that improves some of the performance issues that have been giving everyone problems with 4.x. Check out the comments on the bug report we posted above (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24833). We’ll test internally and report back on our findings @Marco and @AndyD looks like there’s some good news on that front - Android 4.0.3 contains a patch that improves some of the performance issues that have been giving everyone problems with 4.x. Check out the comments on the bug report we posted above (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24833). We’ll test internally and report back on our findings

]]> Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:05 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30531#date:15:05 Comment by Ed Spencer @Johan just tested it - working for me. Can you try again? @Johan just tested it - working for me. Can you try again?

]]> Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:01 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30530#date:15:01 Comment by Marco Kisten I can only agree with AndyD The one major advantage: cross device ‘compatibility’  will be a joke. Regardless how fantastic Sencha Touch is, if it sucks on Android I can also develop nativ iOS Apps. I can only agree with AndyD
The one major advantage: cross device ‘compatibility’  will be a joke.

Regardless how fantastic Sencha Touch is, if it sucks on Android I can also develop nativ iOS Apps.

]]> Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30529#date:14:59 Comment by Johan Is it just me or is the download link broken? http://cdn.sencha.io/touch/sencha-touch-2-b1.zip Is it just me or is the download link broken?
http://cdn.sencha.io/touch/sencha-touch-2-b1.zip

]]> Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:33 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30527#date:14:33 Comment by Rob Boerman Awesome guys, excellent work again! The device profile is again one of those things that show you guys really know the problems we (developers) face and solve them pro-actively for us. Looking forward to taking it for a spin Awesome guys, excellent work again! The device profile is again one of those things that show you guys really know the problems we (developers) face and solve them pro-actively for us.

Looking forward to taking it for a spin

]]> Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:00 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30525#date:09:00 Comment by Ed Spencer @seasharp2 we just mean that the browser itself in those versions has serious problems with most animations and that you might want to steer clear of using them on Android devices until a solution is found @Alex docs are such a big deal for us, it’s really gratifying seeing all the praise they’re getting. Thanks @Cecil, Jamie, Ramachandran and Danilo thanks for your enthusiasm, go make something awesome with it! @seasharp2 we just mean that the browser itself in those versions has serious problems with most animations and that you might want to steer clear of using them on Android devices until a solution is found

@Alex docs are such a big deal for us, it’s really gratifying seeing all the praise they’re getting. Thanks smile

@Cecil, Jamie, Ramachandran and Danilo thanks for your enthusiasm, go make something awesome with it!

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:09 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30520#date:20:09 Comment by Ed Spencer @AndyD thanks for the comment. So far we’ve been optimizing for the device OS versions that are actually out there in the wild. At the moment (thankfully) Honeycomb and ICS only account for 4.4% of all Android devices (see http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html). The versions that we do support extremely well (2.2+) accounts for 86% of all Android phones, which is roughly 20x more actual devices that 3.x and 4.x combined. We are (right now) working on better support for 4.x but have to allocate our resources wisely, remembering that 3.x and 4.x have some extreme and possibly unsolvable issues with animations, down in the browser itself. @AndyD thanks for the comment. So far we’ve been optimizing for the device OS versions that are actually out there in the wild. At the moment (thankfully) Honeycomb and ICS only account for 4.4% of all Android devices (see http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html).

The versions that we do support extremely well (2.2+) accounts for 86% of all Android phones, which is roughly 20x more actual devices that 3.x and 4.x combined. We are (right now) working on better support for 4.x but have to allocate our resources wisely, remembering that 3.x and 4.x have some extreme and possibly unsolvable issues with animations, down in the browser itself.

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:05 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30519#date:20:05 Comment by Cecil B. Sencha Touch is hands-down the best framework for mobile development. Keep up the great work! Sencha Touch is hands-down the best framework for mobile development. Keep up the great work!

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:29 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30517#date:19:29 Comment by Jason Fantastic beta.  You guys rock! Fantastic beta.  You guys rock!

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:16 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30514#date:19:16 Comment by Jamie Congrats on the release and I’ve starred the android issue. Can’t wait to give the Sencha 2 a go. Congrats on the release and I’ve starred the android issue.
Can’t wait to give the Sencha 2 a go.

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:04 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30513#date:18:04 Comment by Danilo This is great! Finally I can use it also on Android platform! Yeah! This is great! Finally I can use it also on Android platform! Yeah! smile

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:11 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30512#date:17:11 Comment by Alex I’ve been using ST2 PR3 and have been thoroughly impressed with the progress since 1.1. This is a much, much more mature framework. Together with ExtJS 4.1 and the vastly improved docs you guys have been putting out (which blow pretty much everything else out of the water), I really like the direction Sencha has been going. Please keep up the excellent work! I’ve been using ST2 PR3 and have been thoroughly impressed with the progress since 1.1. This is a much, much more mature framework. Together with ExtJS 4.1 and the vastly improved docs you guys have been putting out (which blow pretty much everything else out of the water), I really like the direction Sencha has been going.

Please keep up the excellent work!

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:50 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30510#date:15:50 Comment by RAMACHANDRAN thanks and great sencha guys….... waiting for the RTM , please do it sooner sencha team…....... thanks and great sencha guys….... waiting for the RTM , please do it sooner sencha team….......

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:02 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30508#date:15:02 Comment by seasharp2 When you say for Android ICS “So far, we have found no acceptable mechanism to achieve fast and flicker-free animations”, does this mean we Sencha user-developers who wish to include animation type features in our apps should steer clear of ICS? Or are you saying the basic touch animation events that are core to many mobiles apps do not function well on ICS. When you say for Android ICS “So far, we have found no acceptable mechanism to achieve fast and flicker-free animations”, does this mean we Sencha user-developers who wish to include animation type features in our apps should steer clear of ICS? Or are you saying the basic touch animation events that are core to many mobiles apps do not function well on ICS.

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:37 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30505#date:10:37 Comment by AndyD I bet it’s all nice and smooth on an iPhone. I tried it on 3 different Android devices, and the best I can say is: it works. It works on Gingerbread but is still far from fast, it does *not* work on Honeycomb and on ICS I don’t know but I don’t exactly get a warm fuzzy feeling when reading the above blog entry. I have been keeping a close look on Sencha Touch and this is now it’s 5th release in the 2.0 line. Every release has the same ending of it’s release notes: ‘Android 3/4 and Blackberry optimizations are not yet in place’. This worries me more with each release. Let’s hope that those optimizations actually exist and will really be implemented. Because if not, it is just not interesting to develop apps using technologies like Sencha Touch. The one major advantage: cross device ‘compatibility’  will be a joke. Oh, if you consider me ‘just a troll’  then please get yourself an Android device (which the majority of smartphone users own by the way, let us not forget that) and see for yourself, go ahead run that navigation view demo on it. I bet it’s all nice and smooth on an iPhone. I tried it on 3 different Android devices, and the best I can say is: it works. It works on Gingerbread but is still far from fast, it does *not* work on Honeycomb and on ICS I don’t know but I don’t exactly get a warm fuzzy feeling when reading the above blog entry.

I have been keeping a close look on Sencha Touch and this is now it’s 5th release in the 2.0 line. Every release has the same ending of it’s release notes: ‘Android 3/4 and Blackberry optimizations are not yet in place’.
This worries me more with each release. Let’s hope that those optimizations actually exist and will really be implemented. Because if not, it is just not interesting to develop apps using technologies like Sencha Touch. The one major advantage: cross device ‘compatibility’  will be a joke.

Oh, if you consider me ‘just a troll’  then please get yourself an Android device (which the majority of smartphone users own by the way, let us not forget that) and see for yourself, go ahead run that navigation view demo on it.

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:56 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30503#date:08:56 Comment by Ed Spencer @Luis thanks, I think those new MVC patterns are going to be very well received @Jaroslaw we’re working closely with the Designer team to bring those features in soon @James thanks, hopefully we can expand on that @Luis thanks, I think those new MVC patterns are going to be very well received

@Jaroslaw we’re working closely with the Designer team to bring those features in soon

@James thanks, hopefully we can expand on that smile

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:52 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30502#date:07:52 Comment by James Pearce Looks nice! And of course a nice focus on easing the social aspect with compelling mobile apps… Looks nice! And of course a nice focus on easing the social aspect with compelling mobile apps…

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:19 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30499#date:03:19 Comment by Jaroslaw Zabiello When Sencha Designer will support all those new features? E.g. new controlle’s routes are not supported. When Sencha Designer will support all those new features? E.g. new controlle’s routes are not supported.

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:32 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30498#date:01:32 Comment by Mostafa D hi, so exiting!! but in user-interface->list , I can’t access to the last option of list, is this problem just for me ? (I’ve checked it by Google chrome) hi, so exiting!! but in user-interface->list , I can’t access to the last option of list, is this problem just for me ? (I’ve checked it by Google chrome)

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 00:42 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30497#date:00:42 Comment by Luis Merino Congratulations on this release. Things are getting very cool, I love the new history, the routing and overall approach, makes things very clean and faster when developing. Again, excellent work! Congratulations on this release. Things are getting very cool, I love the new history, the routing and overall approach, makes things very clean and faster when developing. Again, excellent work!

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2012 00:21 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30496#date:00:21 Comment by Ed Spencer @Sten it’s kind of present in 4.1, but in a different form. I don’t want to speculate too much about future direction of the products but ST2’s approach feels pretty good… @Sten it’s kind of present in 4.1, but in a different form. I don’t want to speculate too much about future direction of the products but ST2’s approach feels pretty good…

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:42 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30495#date:23:42 Comment by Sten Roger Sandvik Wow. The “MVC with History Support” seems nice. Will you port the history code over to ExtJS 4.1 too? Or is it in there already? Wow. The “MVC with History Support” seems nice. Will you port the history code over to ExtJS 4.1 too? Or is it in there already?

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:26 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30494#date:23:26 Comment by Jay Robinson Fixed: http://docs.sencha.com/touch/2-0/#!/guide/history_support Thanks, Steven. Fixed: http://docs.sencha.com/touch/2-0/#!/guide/history_support

Thanks, Steven.

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:23 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30493#date:23:23 Comment by Robert Dougan @Steven Thanks. It seems to be a caching issue and we are looking into it. @Steven

Thanks. It seems to be a caching issue and we are looking into it.

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:20 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30492#date:23:20 Comment by Rich Waters Great work guys!  Things are really shaping up, and these guides look awesome. Great work guys!  Things are really shaping up, and these guides look awesome.

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:12 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30491#date:23:12 Comment by Steven Roussey PS: The link “guide on history support” goes to a 404 page. PS: The link “guide on history support” goes to a 404 page.

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:12 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30490#date:23:12 Comment by Jay Robinson Congratulations to the Touch team for their incredible work! Sencha Touch 2 looks amazing! Congratulations to the Touch team for their incredible work! Sencha Touch 2 looks amazing!

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:05 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30489#date:23:05 Comment by Steven Roussey I’m excited for mobile again! I’m excited for mobile again!

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:53 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30488#date:22:53 Comment by Cameron With all our ST 1.x projects out of the way, I’m excited to get new ones started on 2. I really like the major improvements you’ve made. With all our ST 1.x projects out of the way, I’m excited to get new ones started on 2. I really like the major improvements you’ve made.

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:41 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30487#date:22:41 Comment by Ralph Haygood Excellent! I’ll put it to work shortly. Excellent! I’ll put it to work shortly.

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:38 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30486#date:22:38 Comment by Abhishek Mishra This was really fast. We love you even more now !!! This was really fast. We love you even more now !!!

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:19 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30485#date:22:19 Comment by Jay Garcia Congrats guys!! This is the best Sencha Touch yet! Congrats guys!! This is the best Sencha Touch yet!

]]> Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:15 GMT http://www.sencha.com/blog//sencha-touch-2-raising-the-bar#id:30484#date:22:15